Comments on: Chained Selenium RSpec examples http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/ software development, informatics, etc. Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:57:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Inforbiomatica » Blog Archive » Turns out, cucumber/webrat/selenium is worse http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/comment-page-1/#comment-2395 Inforbiomatica » Blog Archive » Turns out, cucumber/webrat/selenium is worse Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:17:34 +0000 http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/50#comment-2395 <p>[...] of funkytown that integrated selenium tests into rspec, provided the ability to chain examples (see this blog post), as well as some webrat-like helper methods, except better, enabling code like [...]</p> [...] of funkytown that integrated selenium tests into rspec, provided the ability to chain examples (see this blog post), as well as some webrat-like helper methods, except better, enabling code like [...]

]]> By: Moses http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/comment-page-1/#comment-2389 Moses Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:36:07 +0000 http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/50#comment-2389 <p>Thanks for your comment. We chain in order of appearance, nothing special needs to be done for that to happen.</p> <p>Also, we haven't looked a cucumber much yet. We have existing infrastructure that we'd like to restructure sometime, but for now it works pretty well, especially the code for the actual tests. For our team, I am not that excited about plain text tests. Developers write all of our selenium specs right now. If some day that changes, then we'll probably get more motivated to look into cucumber.</p> Thanks for your comment. We chain in order of appearance, nothing special needs to be done for that to happen.

Also, we haven’t looked a cucumber much yet. We have existing infrastructure that we’d like to restructure sometime, but for now it works pretty well, especially the code for the actual tests. For our team, I am not that excited about plain text tests. Developers write all of our selenium specs right now. If some day that changes, then we’ll probably get more motivated to look into cucumber.

]]> By: Wolfram Arnold http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/comment-page-1/#comment-2386 Wolfram Arnold Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:49:44 +0000 http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/50#comment-2386 <p>This is an interesting idea, the chaining of examples. I've run into this before--the desire to walk through an entire workflow and it creates monster tests. Are you chaining in order of appearance, or do you have to name methods such that their alphabetical order is the order of execution you want?</p> <p>A note on your last comment: Have you looked at Cucumber for integration testing? The rspec.info site now explicitly recommends it.</p> This is an interesting idea, the chaining of examples. I’ve run into this before–the desire to walk through an entire workflow and it creates monster tests. Are you chaining in order of appearance, or do you have to name methods such that their alphabetical order is the order of execution you want?

A note on your last comment: Have you looked at Cucumber for integration testing? The rspec.info site now explicitly recommends it.

]]> By: Moses http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/comment-page-1/#comment-2353 Moses Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:42:36 +0000 http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/50#comment-2353 <p>Hi Jean-Michel,</p> <p>Funny you should ask. I'm almost finished porting the chained examples stuff to a more recent RSpec version, because we were sick of being stuck at 1.0.8 or whatever it was at work. I should have something released in the next couple weeks, and I will be releasing it to spec/ui (which is part of rspec<em>ext). spec</em>selenium will probably be deprecated (although we'll see how it all goes in the next couple weeks).</p> Hi Jean-Michel,

Funny you should ask. I’m almost finished porting the chained examples stuff to a more recent RSpec version, because we were sick of being stuck at 1.0.8 or whatever it was at work. I should have something released in the next couple weeks, and I will be releasing it to spec/ui (which is part of rspecext). specselenium will probably be deprecated (although we’ll see how it all goes in the next couple weeks).

]]> By: Jean-Michel Garnier http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/comment-page-1/#comment-2352 Jean-Michel Garnier Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:48:42 +0000 http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/50#comment-2352 <p>Hi Moses,</p> <p>Cheers for the update! I only see it now though: I did not check you blog</p> <p>http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/ is great! I am going to use it. I also use selenium-grid.</p> <p>Any chance you update the chained example for RSpec >= 1.1.3 ?</p> <p>it looks like it can work using before :all, I am a bit confused at this stage. What's up the spec/ui project?</p> Hi Moses,

Cheers for the update! I only see it now though: I did not check you blog

http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/ is great! I am going to use it. I also use selenium-grid.

Any chance you update the chained example for RSpec >= 1.1.3 ?

it looks like it can work using before :all, I am a bit confused at this stage. What’s up the spec/ui project?

]]> By: Moses http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/comment-page-1/#comment-2286 Moses Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:35:36 +0000 http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/50#comment-2286 <p>Hi Jean-Michel,</p> <p>The use_chained_examples option is something we implemented locally at CDD, and is only available through the spec-selenium plugin right now (available via svn on rubyforge: http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/).</p> <p>Recently I was added as a committer on RSpec to roll some of our work into spec:ui. I will keep you posted.</p> <p>Interesting ideas in your blog post, I would like to see something similar, too. It's an especially interesting idea for clinical informatics, particularly in the case of validated systems, when you need to document everything your software does. This is traditionally done in Word, leading to unacceptable bureaucratic overhead. </p> <p>Sorry it took a while to approve your comment, I was on vacation last week.</p> Hi Jean-Michel,

The use_chained_examples option is something we implemented locally at CDD, and is only available through the spec-selenium plugin right now (available via svn on rubyforge: http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/).

Recently I was added as a committer on RSpec to roll some of our work into spec:ui. I will keep you posted.

Interesting ideas in your blog post, I would like to see something similar, too. It’s an especially interesting idea for clinical informatics, particularly in the case of validated systems, when you need to document everything your software does. This is traditionally done in Word, leading to unacceptable bureaucratic overhead.

Sorry it took a while to approve your comment, I was on vacation last week.

]]> By: Jean-Michel Garnier http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/comment-page-1/#comment-2275 Jean-Michel Garnier Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:49:52 +0000 http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/50#comment-2275 <p>I have also been playing with selenium using spec_ui and I am going to submit some patches to spec_ui. You can find a summary in my blog at http://21croissants.blogspot.com/2007/06/selenium-reports-with-screenshots-using.html</p> <p>I did not know about the "use_chained_examples" option and I am going to give a try right now. Thank you for blogging about it. I have had been thinking to create a specific matcher to generate a description from all selenium actions but it would not have been very readable ...</p> <p>Yes, if you could share your work through a plugin, it would be great! Jean-Michel</p> I have also been playing with selenium using spec_ui and I am going to submit some patches to spec_ui. You can find a summary in my blog at http://21croissants.blogspot.com/2007/06/selenium-reports-with-screenshots-using.html

I did not know about the “use_chained_examples” option and I am going to give a try right now. Thank you for blogging about it. I have had been thinking to create a specific matcher to generate a description from all selenium actions but it would not have been very readable …

Yes, if you could share your work through a plugin, it would be great! Jean-Michel

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