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	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Too many mock objects == ruby refactoring death by Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2008/07/06/too-many-mock-objects-ruby-refactoring-death/#comment-2366</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I totally agree with you. Mock objects have always seemed super awkward to me. I think that when you test your application, it should mimic how it's going to behave in the real world as much as possible. Otherwise, you're not really testing it fully. And I think in-memory databases are the way to go. If you use an ORM (though I haven't used one that I loved), then it should be seamless.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you. Mock objects have always seemed super awkward to me. I think that when you test your application, it should mimic how it&#8217;s going to behave in the real world as much as possible. Otherwise, you&#8217;re not really testing it fully. And I think in-memory databases are the way to go. If you use an ORM (though I haven&#8217;t used one that I loved), then it should be seamless.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Pair programming and microarrays by Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2008/07/09/pair-microarrays/#comment-2365</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First, a few questions about microarray experiments:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What do people hope to gain from microarray experiments in 2008?  What relevance does transcriptional profiling on a genome/transcriptome wide scale have when thousands of these experiments have already been done and made publicly available through GEO and MGED?  And what about the more recent realizations that short, non-coding RNAs (that were thrown away during sample preparation) are orchestrating another level of regulation - you can't go back to the original samples to measure the microRNAs?  What techniques could make microarray data more usable and meaningful?  The GEO interface is god-awful for the occasional user, but look at what Atul Butte can do with these data.  Is there still a meaningful discovery aspect of transcriptional profiling studies?  How many of the people doing microarrays have the infrastructure to do the kind of followup studies that really demonstrate relevance of their discoveries?  I'd wager not many. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, a few thoughts on collaboration:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Collaboration is certainly the key to moving knowledge forward in an increasingly interdisciplinary world, but the paradigm we have been brought up in (at least on the science side) is that to be successful academically you have to the one with the idea, the persistence and the ability to tell a story.  It doesn't help to be the third guy from the left when you're getting credit.  Unless everyone feels that their interests are protected, no one (except the young and foolish) will move forward with a collaboration.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So is there a unique role for a small company in this process?  I think there are several.  But that's a topic for a future post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, a few questions about microarray experiments:</p>

<p>What do people hope to gain from microarray experiments in 2008?  What relevance does transcriptional profiling on a genome/transcriptome wide scale have when thousands of these experiments have already been done and made publicly available through GEO and MGED?  And what about the more recent realizations that short, non-coding RNAs (that were thrown away during sample preparation) are orchestrating another level of regulation - you can&#8217;t go back to the original samples to measure the microRNAs?  What techniques could make microarray data more usable and meaningful?  The GEO interface is god-awful for the occasional user, but look at what Atul Butte can do with these data.  Is there still a meaningful discovery aspect of transcriptional profiling studies?  How many of the people doing microarrays have the infrastructure to do the kind of followup studies that really demonstrate relevance of their discoveries?  I&#8217;d wager not many. </p>

<p>Now, a few thoughts on collaboration:</p>

<p>Collaboration is certainly the key to moving knowledge forward in an increasingly interdisciplinary world, but the paradigm we have been brought up in (at least on the science side) is that to be successful academically you have to the one with the idea, the persistence and the ability to tell a story.  It doesn&#8217;t help to be the third guy from the left when you&#8217;re getting credit.  Unless everyone feels that their interests are protected, no one (except the young and foolish) will move forward with a collaboration.  </p>

<p>So is there a unique role for a small company in this process?  I think there are several.  But that&#8217;s a topic for a future post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on schemamule 1.0 released by Automated Unit Testing with DBUnit, Hsqldb in Spring &#38; Hibernate projects &#124; REVERT TO CONSOLE * coupling afferently since 2006</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2006/05/23/schemamule-10-released/#comment-2362</link>
		<dc:creator>Automated Unit Testing with DBUnit, Hsqldb in Spring &#38; Hibernate projects &#124; REVERT TO CONSOLE * coupling afferently since 2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Welcome to Schemamule. It&#8217;s a tiny jar file and has a single ant task which copies the entire Oracle Schema and generates a Hsqldb database. YES. It replicates an entire Oracle Schema into a hsqldb in seconds! You can either use it as an in memory database for your automated unit testing or as dev only local database for unit testing. For more details, read the original blog here. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Welcome to Schemamule. It&#8217;s a tiny jar file and has a single ant task which copies the entire Oracle Schema and generates a Hsqldb database. YES. It replicates an entire Oracle Schema into a hsqldb in seconds! You can either use it as an in memory database for your automated unit testing or as dev only local database for unit testing. For more details, read the original blog here. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Z factor refactored by Moses</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/11/11/z-factor-refactored/#comment-2355</link>
		<dc:creator>Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comment, Neil. Could you expand more on your statement about time dependent cell counts? I'm interested.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Neil. Could you expand more on your statement about time dependent cell counts? I&#8217;m interested.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Z factor refactored by Neil</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/11/11/z-factor-refactored/#comment-2354</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We agree and really appreciate your discussion of the Z-factor.  It seems that using a time dependent cell count to determine a K value may be a better descriptor.  But I guess this contradicts the HTS philosophy.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We agree and really appreciate your discussion of the Z-factor.  It seems that using a time dependent cell count to determine a K value may be a better descriptor.  But I guess this contradicts the HTS philosophy.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Chained Selenium RSpec examples by Moses</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/#comment-2353</link>
		<dc:creator>Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jean-Michel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Funny you should ask. I'm almost finished porting the chained examples stuff to a more recent RSpec version, because we were sick of being stuck at 1.0.8 or whatever it was at work. I should have something released in the next couple weeks, and I will be releasing it to spec/ui (which is part of rspec&lt;em&gt;ext). spec&lt;/em&gt;selenium will probably be deprecated (although we'll see how it all goes in the next couple weeks).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jean-Michel,</p>

<p>Funny you should ask. I&#8217;m almost finished porting the chained examples stuff to a more recent RSpec version, because we were sick of being stuck at 1.0.8 or whatever it was at work. I should have something released in the next couple weeks, and I will be releasing it to spec/ui (which is part of rspec<em>ext). spec</em>selenium will probably be deprecated (although we&#8217;ll see how it all goes in the next couple weeks).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Chained Selenium RSpec examples by Jean-Michel Garnier</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/#comment-2352</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Michel Garnier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Moses,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers for the update! I only see it now though: I did not check you blog&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/ is great! I am going to use it. I also use selenium-grid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Any chance you update the chained example for RSpec &#62;= 1.1.3 ?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;it looks like it can work using before :all, I am a bit confused at this stage. What's up the spec/ui project?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Moses,</p>

<p>Cheers for the update! I only see it now though: I did not check you blog</p>

<p><a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/" rel="nofollow">http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/</a> is great! I am going to use it. I also use selenium-grid.</p>

<p>Any chance you update the chained example for RSpec &gt;= 1.1.3 ?</p>

<p>it looks like it can work using before :all, I am a bit confused at this stage. What&#8217;s up the spec/ui project?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Chained Selenium RSpec examples by Moses</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator>Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jean-Michel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The use_chained_examples option is something we implemented locally at CDD, and is only available through the spec-selenium plugin right now (available via svn on rubyforge: http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Recently I was added as a committer on RSpec to roll some of our work into spec:ui. I will keep you posted.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interesting ideas in your blog post, I would like to see something similar, too. It's an especially interesting idea for clinical informatics, particularly in the case of validated systems, when you need to document everything your software does. This is traditionally done in Word, leading to unacceptable bureaucratic overhead. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry it took a while to approve your comment, I was on vacation last week.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jean-Michel,</p>

<p>The use_chained_examples option is something we implemented locally at CDD, and is only available through the spec-selenium plugin right now (available via svn on rubyforge: <a href="http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/" rel="nofollow">http://rubyforge.org/projects/spec-selenium/</a>).</p>

<p>Recently I was added as a committer on RSpec to roll some of our work into spec:ui. I will keep you posted.</p>

<p>Interesting ideas in your blog post, I would like to see something similar, too. It&#8217;s an especially interesting idea for clinical informatics, particularly in the case of validated systems, when you need to document everything your software does. This is traditionally done in Word, leading to unacceptable bureaucratic overhead. </p>

<p>Sorry it took a while to approve your comment, I was on vacation last week.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Z factor refactored by Moses</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/11/11/z-factor-refactored/#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>Moses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Probably so, thanks for your comment. I'll play around with the idea. ROC curves are definitely an intuitive way to present sensitivity/specificity information.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably so, thanks for your comment. I&#8217;ll play around with the idea. ROC curves are definitely an intuitive way to present sensitivity/specificity information.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Chained Selenium RSpec examples by Jean-Michel Garnier</title>
		<link>http://www.moseshohman.com/blog/2007/08/08/chained-selenium-rspec-examples/#comment-2275</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean-Michel Garnier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have also been playing with selenium using spec_ui and I am going to submit some patches to spec_ui. You can find a summary in my blog at
http://21croissants.blogspot.com/2007/06/selenium-reports-with-screenshots-using.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I did not know about the "use_chained_examples" option and I am going to give a try right now. Thank you for blogging about it. I have had been thinking to create a specific matcher to generate a description from all selenium actions but it would not have been very readable ...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, if you could share your work through a plugin, it would be great!
Jean-Michel&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also been playing with selenium using spec_ui and I am going to submit some patches to spec_ui. You can find a summary in my blog at
<a href="http://21croissants.blogspot.com/2007/06/selenium-reports-with-screenshots-using.html" rel="nofollow">http://21croissants.blogspot.com/2007/06/selenium-reports-with-screenshots-using.html</a></p>

<p>I did not know about the &#8220;use_chained_examples&#8221; option and I am going to give a try right now. Thank you for blogging about it. I have had been thinking to create a specific matcher to generate a description from all selenium actions but it would not have been very readable &#8230;</p>

<p>Yes, if you could share your work through a plugin, it would be great!
Jean-Michel</p>]]></content:encoded>
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